"Green" Solar Energy

Its always amused me at how environuts never think about what it takes to make something. They only look at the end product. For example, there is a pretty strong argument that hybrids take more energy to produce than a Hummer since there are two separate powerplants in a hybrid and therefore two whole production pipelines (factories) are needed compared to only one for a Hummer.

An anti-recycling argument is the fact that recycling takes more energy than we gain, therefore we waste energy recycling, not gain energy.

Along these lines there's also this.